Consolidated C-87 'Liberator Express'
|  Base model:||C-87|
|  Nickname:||Liberator Express|
|  Designation System:||U.S. Air Force|
|  Designation Period:||1925-1962|
|  Basic role:||Transport|
Known serial numbers
|41-11608, 41-11639 / 41-11642, 41-11655 / 41-11657, 41-11674 / 41-11676, 41-11704, 41-11706 / 41-11709
41-11728 / 41-11733
41-11742 / 41-11747
41-11788 / 41-11789
41-11837 / 41-11838
41-11907 / 41-11908
41-23669 / 41-23670
41-23694 / 41-23696
41-23791 / 41-23793
41-23850 / 41-23852
41-23859 / 41-23862
41-23903 / 41-23905
41-24004 / 41-24006
41-24027 / 41-24029
41-24139 / 41-24141
41-24160 / 41-24163
41-24172 / 41-24173
42-107249 / 42-107275
43-30548 / 43-30568
43-30572 / 43-30627
44-39198 / 44-39298
44-52978 / 44-52987
Recent comments by our visitors
| David Englund|
Saw your post & noticed you mentioned your fathers Short Snorter....I also have my fathers Short Snorter. Interestingly, Gene Autry came to my fathers base on a tour and my fathers Captain signed him on as an honorary crew member and Autry signed everyone's Snorter including my fathers.
I don't think many people understand nowadays how important the snorter was to WWII air crews. It was a bonding!
I will check the signatures on his snorter but the odds are pretty slim they came across each other - but one never knows. I had posted an earlier item about a book on the Air Transport By Ivan D. You may want to find that book and go through it, perhaps there may be a name or link to a person.
Good Luck on your search - Dave
07/26/2008 @ 19:27 [ref: 22272]
| Lou Harding|
| My late father flew C-87's with the ATC Air Carrier Contract Personnel as he was with American Airlines at that time. He was the radio operator and flew over the "hump" and later out of Presque Isle, Maine. His aircraft when in the CBI theater, was called "Spam Happy" as canned spam was one of their main food items. He knew and flew with Ernest K. Gann, author of "Fate Is The Hunter" and "Island In The Sky". I have his old "short Snorter" with numerous signatures of crew members he flew with. If anyone might have flown with him, I would be glad to check the names and see if I have a signature. I would really like to be able to identify his aircraft "Spam Happy" if anybody has any old photos. |
07/08/2008 @ 09:00 [ref: 21801]
| E.D. Sartin|
| Sorry, the reply was to Mike not "Jim" enior moment I guess. |
11/26/2007 @ 09:36 [ref: 18672]
| E.D. Sartin|
Wichita Falls, TX
| Jim, My Dad flew from Late 43, till the end in 45 and also transitioned to C-54 in late 44/ early 45. He still loved the 87's though. I've posted a few of the photos I scanned this weekend from a notebook my Mom put together for him. He was stationed in Dodge City, San Antonio, and Las Vegas, New Mexico before going over. He had a pretty severe hearing loss in latter years that the doctors attributed to long hours in sub zero temps in an unpressurized cabin over the Hump. |
11/26/2007 @ 09:30 [ref: 18670]
| Mike Fleming|
| My dad flew the C-87 which he made several trips to Casablanca and Karachi, India. His name was Herschel Fleming. Any past information you might have that might show his photo or anyone contected to him would be greatly appreciated.
11/21/2007 @ 15:57 [ref: 18622]
| David Englund|
| Mike Slusher & Others
You might be interested in a great book published in 1944 titled "Flight to Everywhere" by Ivan Dmitri which is "A Picture journey over 32,000 miles of Air Transport Command routes through jungle, desert and arctic". I have this book and since it was published during the war, it has a feel of war time when looking through as well as telling and showing a lot of photographs of the ATC in all of the theatres. There are a lot of C-87's and some c-46's shown in the book. A lot of the photos are in color. For those of us that had a father, uncle, grandfather in the ATC, it is a great book. By the way, the photos identify a lot of the military personnel, you might find your relative in one of the photos...Hope you find the book, I know they are around.
11/10/2007 @ 16:51 [ref: 18493]
| Mike Slusher|
La Pine, OR
| My Step father Jim Lumsden flew as a Radio Operator with the 1st Trasnsport Command on C87's ,from Miami Fl. to Chabua India. They laid over in South America and North Africa. A round trip took about 30 days.
He says most of what they were hauling were A/c Engines. C46,s would pick up the cargo from there and then fly the Hump and they would return to the states for anouther trip.
His piolet was orginally a Pan Am Skipper named David Hackney.They only had one mechanical problem which was a Geneator out.
He flew from 1942 until 1945. Best he can remember they were in the C87 until sometime in 1944. After that they transitioned to C54's.
He said Life Magizine had a group of reporters make one round trip and wrote a story about it. Sure would like to get a copy of that! Jim lives w/ us any respose would be great.
11/08/2007 @ 09:55 [ref: 18458]
| Please add this serial # to the list 43-30582. My father, Benjamin Samel, flew this C-87 in 1944. Pilot was Robert C Tischler |
08/24/2007 @ 05:18 [ref: 17733]
| Kevin Blair|
| During WWII my step father was a radio operator flying the Hump. I spoke to him the other night and he told a story about flying in an empty C-87 on a training flight. According to him, once the armament was removed the center of gravity shifted in the plane making it difficult to land when empty. This problem was sometimes addressed by sending a crew member to the back of the plane in the area where the tail gunner would be in the B-24 version. He remembered one occasion when he took his position in the back and, on landing, the pilot scraped the bottom of the plane on the runway.
During the war Dad received a DFC w/Oak Leaf Cluster and an Air Medal.
07/31/2007 @ 10:05 [ref: 17383]
| Roy Gibbens|
| I would like to see a photo of the single tail C-87C, a version of the B-24N. |
06/13/2007 @ 08:37 [ref: 16820]
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