Fairchild R4Q-1 'Flying Boxcar'


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  Base model:R4Q
  Nickname:Flying Boxcar
  Equivalent to: C-119C C119CC-119C
  Designation System:U.S. Navy / Marines
  Designation Period:1931-1962
  Basic role:Transport
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  Length: 86' 5" 26.3 m
  Height:26' 7" 8.1 m
  Wingspan: 109' 3" 33.3 m
  Wingarea: 1,447.0 sq ft 134.4 sq m
  Empty Weight: 39,800 lb 18,049 kg
  Gross Weight: 74,000 lb 33,560 kg

  No. of Engines: 2
  Powerplant: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20
  Horsepower (each): 3500

  Range: 1,770 miles 2,850 km
  Max Speed: 281 mph 452 km/h 244 kt
  Climb: 1,010 ft/min 307 m/min
  Ceiling: 23,900 ft 7,284 m

Known serial numbers
124324 / 124331, 124332 / 124333, 126574 / 126582, 128723 / 128744


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 , VA
Spent what seemed like all the live-long day rattling around in what we called the "Ah F--- You" en route to Rosie Roads (from Cherry Point, if I remember correctly)with the 22nd SLT five days before the Cuban Missile Crisis. My memory is vague now but it seems that we landed on some island and refueled between MCAS and The Roads. From Rosie Roads, we flew to Camp Garcia on Vieques the next morning. A few days later I was bobbing up and down in a rubber boat off the Cuban coast for 10 hours before the mission was scratched when the Russians blinked. The flight on the R4Q was rougher, as I remember. But the old "Box-car" always got the job done. I had not thought of the R4Q in years until yesterday when someone asked me "what did you do in the Marines?" Semper Fi to all you Devil Dogs out there!
10/10/2008 @ 09:17 [ref: 22822]
 David Thiessen
 Camp Pendleton, CA

I am a CH-46 pilot out of Camp Pendleton CA. My grandfather was a veteran of WWII, Korea and Vietnam and flew a lot of different fixed and rotary wing aircraft. He spent a large amount of his career in the reserves flying R4Q's out of Japan and Hawaii. His name was Richard T Rodd or "Dick". I only knew my grandfather in my formative years and not at all as an adult or a Marine Aviator. If anyone knew him please let me know.

Semper FI,
Dave Thiessen
09/14/2008 @ 21:43 [ref: 22683]
 Jeff Martin
 Gangwon-do, OTH
There's one at the Korean War Memorial Museum in Seoul.
08/17/2008 @ 21:05 [ref: 22483]
 Stan Kubik
 , FL
I was stationed in Iwakuni, Japan from 1960 - 1961 with VMR-253. If anyone knows the whereabouts of a Lt. E. L. McGruder that was a pilot in VMR-253 during this time period please contact me at the above email.
11/17/2007 @ 11:03 [ref: 18569]
 Roger Wyckoff
 , PA
Possibly your last chance to see a flying Flying Boxcar

Hagerstown Aviation Museum in Hagerstown, MD has received a donation of a 1953 Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar. They plan to fly it to Hagerstown in October. Check their website for any changes, or additional info. It was with the Canadian Air Force and has a jet pack attached.

Roger Wyckoff
04/08/2007 @ 10:16 [ref: 16134]
 Roger Wyckoff
 , PA
This message is for anyone interested in the two "Flight of the Phoenix" movies. It is especially for any Marines interested in the Marine R4Q-1 and R4Q-2s used in making the movies.

In the 1965 version with Jimmy Stewart, the following aircraft were used in various roles.

Two C-82A Fairchild Packets.

One Marine R4Q-1, BuNo 126580 was used to make a non-flying Phoenix prop, which had an operating engine and was taxied by Stewart in the movie. I actually flew at least one flight in 126580 while I was a radio operator in VMR-253 in 1958 and 1959.

One Tallmantz Phoenix P-1 was made for the movie.

One North American O-47A

In the 2004 version, the following aircraft were used.

One C-119 F was used for the flying scenes at the beginning
of the movie. It started out in the Canadian Air Force.

Three Marine R4Q-2s, BuNos 131691, 131700 and 131706 were used in various roles.

Simon Beck, of New Zealand has a web site, with a Special Feature "Flight of the Phoenix," which can give you everything you want to know about the making of both films.
There are also a lot of good photos in the Special Feature.
You have to search for Simon Beck and uswarplanes. This site will take delete web site addresses.

Simon's favorite airplane is the Flying Boxcar and his two favorite movies are the Flight of the Phoenix movies. If anyone has any photos of the above R4Qs, I'm sure he would appreciate hearing from you.

Roger Wyckoff
03/23/2007 @ 13:36 [ref: 16008]
 Jim Robinson
 Shallotte, NC
john novitch for some good c-119 pictures look at this address.

02/25/2007 @ 16:11 [ref: 15671]
 Mike Woods
 Kernersville, NC
Not to be picky, but isn't the Air Force C-119 called "Flying Boxcar"? The Navy-Marine version, R4Q, is named "Packet" isn't it?

They still had 'em at Glenview when I left for flight school but they were all gone before I finished.
07/12/2006 @ 10:51 [ref: 13713]
 jjohn w novitch
 henderson, NV
18 years old and in the Marine Corps Reserve for only two months. No experience in military aircraft (boy was that to chane!). The Boxcar sat on the runway all by its lonesome like some awkward abandoned bird. Well, it beat walking to Cherry Point or sdo I thought). In the distance I could see a large pile of Marine green gear. I thought it was eqipment for our forthcoming stay at Camp Lejeune. As our bus approached the aircraft I quickly found out that the pile of equipment was a stack of parachutes and one of which I was soon to acquire. Sure was a boost to my confidence. Needless to say we all made in to Cherry Point and back with no incidents. That was the only time during my Marine Corps career that I flew in a Marine aircraft with a parachute. See those chutes sitting there sure made my spincter pucker a bit. Quite an aircraft though.Good subject for bar talk.

If anyone knows how I can obtain a photo of one these birds please let me know. Happy flying but happy landing is much preferred.
03/31/2006 @ 22:47 [ref: 12998]
 Ed Bowers
 Cranston, RI
A few years I started building models of all the aircraft I had flown in during my time in the Marines. The Boxcar took the longest to find. But I finally added it to my collection. Although an ungainly looking plane we came to love it.
02/03/2006 @ 11:48 [ref: 12406]


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