Fairchild R4Q-2 (C-119F) 'Flying Boxcar'

  Base model:R4Q
  Nickname:Flying Boxcar
  Equivalent to: C-119F
  Designation System:U.S. Navy / Marines
  Designation Period:1931-1962
  Basic role:Transport
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Known serial numbers
51-2586, 51-2668 / 51-2686, 51-2687 / 51-2689, 51-7968 / 51-8052, 51-8098 / 51-8168, 51-8169 / 51-8232

Examples of this type may be found at
Hill Aerospace MuseumHill AFBUtah
March Field Air MuseumRiversideCalifornia
McClellan Aviation MuseumMcClellan AFBCalifornia
Mid-Atlantic Air MuseumReadingPennsylvania

C-119F on display

Hill Aerospace Museum

McClellan Aviation Museum

Mid-Atlantic Air Museum


Recent comments by our visitors
 Roger Wyckoff
 , PA
Marine R4Q-2 BuNo 131677 is now at the Mid Atlantic Air Museum at Reading, PA and is undergoing restoration. They plan to paint it in a Cherry Point squadron livery.
10/26/2008 @ 10:19 [ref: 22929]
 Barbara Dougall
 Slingerlands, NY
I have a photo of what I think is an R4q-2. It appears to say US Marines R4Q-2, Serial No 3668, number on nose 668. Can anyone tell me anything about this? Out of the door is a waving general, but I don't know who. This would be circa 1953.
07/29/2008 @ 13:55 [ref: 22292]
 Ray Fenter
 Lake Havasu City, AZ
I was in VMR 253, Iwakuni, '56-'57, working on the R4Q. Would love to hear from old buddies.

Ray Fenter, CPL, Auctioneer, Old Guy.
07/22/2008 @ 19:46 [ref: 22228]
 Jack Simpson
 Cheyenne, WY
Last of the Q's/119's were phased out of the Corps in the mid 70's from MARTD NAS GLENVIEW. I was crew chief on 131708 when it went to the bone yard. It is now on display at MCAS MIRAMAR.
06/08/2008 @ 07:28 [ref: 21204]
 Stan Wiles
 Munford, TN
Hugo Ruiz, I also was in VMR 252 at Cherry Point, but I was there from 1958 - 1961. I was there when the bird crashed, as a matter of fact, I was on the other aircraft returning from Port Lyautey that illfated night in March 1959. I knew Ralph well and I was in contact with him after his lengthy stay in the hospital. I know quite a bit about the crash,but there is a lot more that I would like to know. By the way, there were only nine people, including Ralph, aboard. I can still remember the names of alost all of them.If you have any info or pictures that pertain to the incident, would you please forward them to me, anything will be greatly appreciated!! My E-mail address is stanwiles@bigriver.net. Semper fi Stan Wiles
03/29/2008 @ 11:00 [ref: 20281]
 Hugo A. Ruiz
 Harrison, NY
Have tried to send you photos and to address a reply to Rudy Oetting who contributed a note on a fatality at Cherry Point. I was attached to VMR 252 1951-53 as a radio operator. Would like you to send me an email address so I can forward data which may be of interest.
02/01/2008 @ 09:18 [ref: 19499]
 K. Griskelis
 Logansport, LA
I was in VMR-253 in 57-58 and again in 59-60. Ralph was with us in Iwakuni until he rotated back to Cherry Pt in 58 or early 59. We only got second hand information regrding that crash. I remember the story went that when the rescuers got to the crash site, Ralph was sitting on a tree stump, dazed and burned and rubbing his head. I'd like to hear from any of you Ni-Go-San guys.krislinda@bellsouth.net
12/08/2007 @ 13:12 [ref: 18851]
 Tom Nickols
 Carthage, MO

I am the webmaster for www.kc130.com. I am very interested in the history of the transporters, and need as much information as can be aquired from Marines who worked with or flew on these airplanes.

R4Q-1, -2's.

I have a section "Before the KC130" on the site. For me to be able to get the complete story on the 130's, I need to have a history of where the men came from that made the transition from the R4Q's to the 130's.

Anything you can do to help would be appreciated. Also, anyone else reading this post, I really need help and stories that revolve around the early years.

Thanks Guy's,
Tom Nickols
Webmast: www.kc130.com
Firefighter / Paramedic

04/28/2007 @ 10:10 [ref: 16332]
 Roger Wyckoff
 , PA
Possibly your last chance to see a flying Flying Boxcar

Hagerstown Aviation Museum in Hagerstown, MD has received a donation of a 1953 Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar. They plan to fly it to Hagerstown in October. Check their website for any changes, or additional info. It was with the Canadian Air Force and has a jet pack attached.

Roger Wyckoff
04/08/2007 @ 10:06 [ref: 16133]
 Roger Wyckoff
 , PA
This message is for anyone interested in the two "Flight of the Phoenix Movies." It is especially for any Marines interested in the Marine R4Q-1 and R4Q-2s used in the movies.

In the 1965 version, with Jimmy Stewart, the following aircraft were used in various roles.

Three C82A Fairchild Packets

One Marine R4Q-1, BuNo 126580 was used to make a non-flying
Phoenix prop, which had an operating engine and was taxied by Stewart in the movie. I actually flew at least one flight in 126580 while I was a radio operator in VMR-253 in 1958 & 1959.

A Tallmantz Phoenix was constructed.

A North American O-47A was used.

In the 2004 version the following aircraft were used.

One C-119F, Serial #10955, which started out in the Canadian Air Force. It did the flying scenes at the beginning.

Three Marine R4Q-2s were used.
BuNos 131691, 131700 and 131706

Simon Beck, of New Zealand, has a great site about uswarplanes, which contains a Special Feature "Flight of the Phoenix." Since this message will have any web sites erased, you will have to search using his name and uswarplanes.

Also, if you have any photos of the Marine R4Q-s involved in the movies, Simon would love to have them emailed to him. His favorite airplane is the Flying Boxcar and his two favorite movies are the Flight of the Phoenix movies.

For anyone who has the 1965 movie version, here is an interesting point. Approximately one hour and 20 minutes into the film there is a scene. It is while they are inside the crashed plane's cargo compartment and are having a discussion about someone stealing from the drinking water supply. Clearly shown is a flight board showing the movie's fictional flight, listing Stewart's character, Towns, as the pilot. It also lists "VMR-253 and BuNo 126580" along with the departure and destination points.

This Special Feature has just about everything you want to know about the making of the films and also some great photos.

Roger Wyckoff
03/23/2007 @ 09:30 [ref: 16006]


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